Dartington
Cider Press

Investigated on March 18th, 2009
PEOPLE
PRESENT AT THE INVESTIGATION
HIDDEN
REALMS TEAM
Chris, Pete, Mike, Duncan, Ian, Dawn.
MEMBERS
OF TORRE ABBEY STAFF
Jules, Rosemary, Dan, Lucy plus another female member.
EQUIPMENT
USED
EVP X 2
EMF
Motion Detectors X2
Video Camcorders X 4
Coin Trigger Object
Cross Trigger Object
Dowsing Rods
Pendulum
AREAS
INVESTIGATED
Entrance Area
Red Room Lined with Paintings
Dining Room/Drawing Room
The Gatehouse
The Chapel
The Office
The Upper Exhibition Area
Anecdotal
Ghost Stories associated with the Abbey
Where
the offices are now used to be the curators flat. Here he
lived with his family including two sons. One of his sons,
approximately 7-8 years old at the time said in later years
that during a period of 3-4 years in his life he saw someone
in his room. They were not smokey, misty or anything that
resembled a stereotypical ghost, but a solid looking person.
He told his father that he was ‘talking to Jesus’
as the figure had a beard and dressed in an off-white habit
(the colour worn by the Premonstratensian Canons who founded
the abbey).
It was
also during this period in time that the caretaker had to
do a final check around the building each night to make sure
that everything was all locked and secure before retiring
to bed, a journey that he used to take one of his son’s
along with him. On one of these walkthroughs the heavy, metal
latch on old, thick door to the Abbot’s Tower started
jiggling wildly as if someone was on the other side trying
to get in. The caretaker immediately opened the door and pulled
it wide to see who was on the other side but was surprised
to see nobody there.
Another
ghost story, related to us when we spent the night at the
Spanish Barn is of a girl who was seen on CCTV being led around
the Abbey. The girl had been walking through the Abbey with
her family and was hold of what she thought was her grandmother’s
hand. It was only when she reached the Chapel that she realised
that it wasn’t her Grandmothers hand that she was hold
of and that there was no-one holding her hand. When the CCTV
footage was later examined the girl was seen walking along
with her hand held upwards as though being led along, but
there was nobody with her.
Footsteps
have been heard walking around the top level where the upper
level gallery is now.
There
are many legends attributed to the place, the most famous
being that of a headless monk who is said to roam the building.
However, those who work in the Abbey, past and present, have
not reported seeing such an apparition.
EXPERIMENTS
USED ON THE INVESTIGATION
The Coin
Experiment was set up in the grand Dining Hall. This was set
up here because of the grandness of the room itself. In this
experiment many coins from different years are placed on a
piece of paper and they are then carefully drawn round and
left with a camera placed above them set to film in case one
of the coins move. By doing it this way it ensures that if
anything does move the possibility of it being an innocent
knock or foul-play can be ruled out.
The Cross
Experiment was set up in the small back office where the caretaker
used to live with his family. The room in question was the
room associated with the ‘Jesus’ story. This experiment
is set up in a similar way to the coin in that a cross is
placed on a clean piece of paper and then carefully drawn
round and then filmed.
The Beam-Break
motion sensor was set up in the top-level gallery. This was
due to the report of footsteps being heard up on this top
level.
An EMF
meter was used to sweep around various areas to ensure no
possibility of EMF pockets could be found that might cause
feelings that could be mistakenly attributed to paranormal
phenomenon. An EMF records Electro Magnetic Fluctuations.
These are sometimes found near power sockets, light sockets
and other similar areas. But it is also thought that paranormal
activity can provide magnetic fluctuations.
The Dictaphone
audio recorder was left recording in the small area behind
the large, wooden door. The door was carefully closed to fully
recreate the set-up of the rattling metal latch.
Room
to the left in the Entrance Area
The group
assembled in this room and began to sense spirit energy.
It was
felt that a male energy was present and that he seemed to
be a leader or teacher of some kind. He was very knowledgeable
and showed a member of the group a book that he was carrying.
He gave his name as Michael. He also talked about four friends
that were associated with him and he gave their names as John,
Luke, Matthew and another name that wasn’t clear. They
were like almost like his followers.
It was
felt that the area where he linked in with us was not mainly
where he stayed. He told of another door way and stairs that
lead to where he spent most of his time.
Whilst the group did their opening protection Michael said
that it was not needed. They had all the protection they needed.
He was very interested in everything. When a member of the
group was using dowsing rods Michael was watching him. It
was felt he was inquisitive as to why they were being used.
There
was also the voice of a man in the same room that didn't seem
to like Michael. But as quick as he started to communicate,
Michael seemed to cut him off.
There was another male presence in the room which at first
seemed to be very short in stature but it was later revealed
that this man was bent over and couldn’t straighten
his back up. We felt that he may have been a scribe and that
years of constant writing at a bench may have been the reason
for his deformity. It was felt that this male did not like
the other authorative male. He resented him. We were also
given the name John.
We were
also told that women were not allowed in this area and that
the women should leave, although a member of our team did
sense a female spirit in the area.
We also
sensed the presence of livestock in this area.
One of
the team also thought that in the room adjacent to this one
that there was a staircase sometime in the past. A group member
dowsed this for us and felt that it may have been in the left
hand corner as you approach from the other room.
THE
TRICKSTER!
One of
the team members linked in with a man who seemed to like playing
practical jokes. He was not an ancient spirit more like a
recent one from around the last 30yrs or so. He thought that
what we were doing that night was funny. He kept saying silly
things and making jokes. He said that he was able to move
things and make things happen, but only sometimes.
He didn’t
know why he could make things happen one day and not the next.
He called himself Jeff/Geoff? When he was asked for his surname
he said the name Jeff again. He really was a joker!
He was
asked if he was responsible for things that had been happening
around the building and he said that he was.
We were
told by a member of staff that one evening the fire-alarm
had been activated from an area that was sealed off. The glass
had been broken on the fire-alarm box and the alarm set off.
This could not have been done by a visitor or member of staff
as the area was sealed off by a sliding heavy metal door.
We asked
the spirit calling itself Jeff if he had done this and he
said it was!
Unfortunately
he continued to link in with the team member, making silly
remarks and this became slightly annoying after a while. An
example of this was when we were asking out for the name of
a female spirit he told our team member ‘Gertrude, tell
her Gertrude’!
THE
STRANGE NOISE
Whilst
walking out of the Drawing Room and walking down the ramp
outside the door, a member of the group heard a loud sigh
which sounded like a male voice. This was annoying as there
was not a camera or EVP in the area at the time. Another member
of the group who happened to be approaching the same area
at the same time also heard the noise.
THE
RED ROOM LINED WITH PAINTINGS
An elderly
man wandered this room. He seemed caught up in the memories
of war, although not sure which. He was a man of short stature
who was also rather portly. We were given the message ‘This
wouldn’t happen in my day’.
Whilst
the group were sat in this room two of the members became
aware of a young boy in spirit. The boy appeared to be drawn
to one of the male members of our team. The child kept referring
to this person as ‘my friend’ This was interesting
as this particular member of the group does work with young
children and it was felt that the male child was picking up
on this. The child looked about 4-5yrs old and he was laughing
and running backwards and forwards, as though playing tag.
He gave the name of James.
To demonstrate
how the child was moving around dowsing rods were used to
pick up on its energy and these proceeded to move from left
to right as the child moved about. It was stood right in front
of the team member who then stood up and walked across the
room with the child still trailing behind him laughing and
giggling. One of the lightest and happiest energies we have
picked up on for a while, truly uplifting!
Rosemary
linked in with a female energy in this room. Two other members
of our group picked up on a lady and it was felt that she
was a Victorian Lady with the name of Mary. The name of Mary
was picked up independently by all three people.
THE
CHAPEL
The group
sat for a while in the Chapel to see if there was any spirit
energy.
One member
sat at the front on the left hand side to ‘link in’.
The member then became aware of a presence on the right hand
side of the Chapel, also sat on the front pew. This presence
was an elderly man who was beckoning for the member to come
and sit next to him. It was as though the team member had
made a mistake and was sat on the wrong side.
After
moving across and sitting on the right hand side, next to
the male spirit, the smell of ‘well worn’ clothes
became apparent. The man was wearing a suit of ‘thick
material’ almost woollen looking. He had a waistcoat
on of some description. One of our group came and sat behind
the male presence and was also able to smell a ‘stale’
odour.
THE
OFFICE
We sat
for a short while in the office where strange things had been
happening. In here it was felt that a male spirit came in
visitation to this room. It was felt that he entered the room
on the right hand side where the adjoining office door is.
It was round this area that his presence was felt quite strongly.
A name was also given in connection with this spirit of ‘Seymour’.
THE
UPPER EXHIBITION AREA
In this
area there seemed to be a constant shift of energy. Something
was moving about which made you feel quite dizzy and also
seemed to affect the throat.
We also conducted some dowsing in this room and approximately
5 walls were found from an earlier configuration of the room,
which appeared to make a series of smaller rooms.
DINING
ROOM/DRAWING ROOM
On a previous
trip to the Abbey a member of the team linked into a gentleman
in a brown suit. Even on walking up to the room the energy
could be felt following behind. He was wearing a very smart
brown suit. It was in the 1930/40 style, with a longish, square
jacket and double rows of buttons. He was wearing a type of
trilby hat which was a dark brown. He looked about 40 yrs
old with a long thin face and was constantly smiling. He stood
to the left hand side and made no attempt at any other type
of communication. He seemed very happy and appeared to be
very proud of his surroundings.
On the
night of the investigation it was a very different story.
We linked in with a man who was sat at a desk. He seemed to
be sat on the side of the room which has no windows in it.
He seemed connected to a group of men talking about something
which left them with very grave and serious faces. They then
went and this man who gave his name as John was left to write
a letter. He had to do ‘the right thing’ because
too many people knew about ‘the situation’…what
ever that was. It was a situation that he knew he couldn’t
talk his way out of because of the high position that he held.
Rosemary
was touched gently on her forehead during this link.
Some of
us felt a discomfort in our throat which felt like it was
connected to his determination not to get visually upset.
Almost like keeping a stiff upper lip. London was given as
the destination for the letter and whatever it was about was
going to affect his family and his life. It was as though
he had a huge ‘weight’ on his shoulders and everything
was dependant on him.
He was
in his 30’s with a thick brown moustache, hair parted
at the side which was straight and then curled. We were given
the impression that he was a very private man and struggled
to hide his feelings.
Rosemary
who stayed for the investigation was also feeling very distressed
about this gentleman. She could sense his sadness and the
helplessness of his situation. It would have been nice to
help the gentleman but as he did not communicate at the time
it would have been very difficult to pass him into the light.
Another
group member heard whispering by the door where the steps
go down on the other side and also saw a dog run in and out
of the table legs.
THE
GATEHOUSE
In the
time that the group spent in this area there was not a great
deal of spirit energy felt.
Initially
a female was sensed who may have been a maid.
Also a
male spirit with a very wide white collar which draped across
his shoulders.
Conclusion
(Scientific Experiments) by Mike
Unfortunately,
for me personally, nothing was really experienced during my
time at Torre Abbey. I investigated alone and spent time in
not only the areas where there have been reports of things
happening but also in the areas that stereotypically looked
‘haunted’. The main areas I stayed in were the
storage rooms that you walk past as you first enter the Abbey
via the front entrance, the Gatehouse room and The Chapel
as well as wandering around the majority of the location to
see if anything would happen spontaneous (as has been the
case many times in the past).
Unfortunately,
nothing really happened during my time at any of these locations
except when I seemingly gave the custodians overlooking our
investigations a bit of a fright by walking around down in
the Storage rooms with them not knowing that I was down there.
There
was a time, up in the Gatehouse, when I was sat there for
a long period of time quietly talking out to whatever may
be in there and getting the distinct sensation of something
blunt being pushed right up on my forehead between my eyes.
It was also here that the names Constantine, Francis and Mark,
all prefixed ‘Brother’ came into mind. However,
there’s the big possibility (and most likely explanation)
that this was just a wandering imagination at play and nothing
more.
At the
end of the night neither the cross or coins had moved and
the motion detector up in the gallery failed to go off once. During
an initial listen through on the Dictaphone there were two
initially interesting sounds recorded of doors closing, but
upon a review of the video footage that was also left recording
in the same vicinity of the Abbey it was determined that these
sounds were made by members of the group. |